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Topic: About Ansar
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libnani2002
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posted January 08, 2002 07:07 PM
I've heard this a thousand times, Rahif did this and Rahif did that for Ansar, but the "crystal clear" truth that no one wants to admit is that Ansar was the best team in Lebanon for 11 consecutive years, winning the championship and the cup, and beating the biggests clubs in Asia (Al shabab-Saudia and Bass-Iran for example). This would have happenned whether Rahif was there or not!
As for why Ansar is not getting good results in the past 2 years, well anyone that knows about football knows that every team passes through cycles ie ups and downs. See how Brazil reached their peak in 1994, but today they are at the end of the cycle...now it is time for France and Argentina to perform at their best...
But be sure my friend, great clubs remain great, and history is the best evidence (e.g. Real Madrid, Liverpool etc... were great in the 1960-1970, and now they are back to dominate)....
So lets all stop talking with our emotions and just admit that Ansar was the golden team of lebanese football in the 1990s....and if now Tadamon Sour can prove that they are the team of the 2000s, then congratulations!waiting for all your replies!
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future_boss
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posted January 08, 2002 07:43 PM
libnani, though im not an ansar fan..and i hate ansar so much..i dnt denay the fact that ansar had the golden team then!!!bass i also dnt denay the fact that RAhif...helped ansar sighn lots and most of there players!!!!!! and during games he helped them in matches even though they didnt need it!!! bass ansar was the golden team than!!!! Ansar's problem in these 2 years is: ansar never brought i2 their squad youngsters it was always the old players......suddenly they all reached an age were they retired or movrd 2 smaller clubs!!! Ansar did a big mistake...they never added youngsters 2 their squad!!! and npw Ansar is doing another mistake!!! they shouldnt have a whole youngster team..there should b 7 youngsters, 7 old players and 7 in 8 in there mid ages!!!not all young!!! that is bad, cuz these players will reach the end of there peaks in the same age!!! u should ahve different ages 2 always b able 2 renew yr team witthin months not years!!!!.....yalla basita...shallah kahrr!!!
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future_boss
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posted January 08, 2002 08:14 PM
And 4 Tadamon being the 2000 Champz!! Tadamon r and will b 4 the next several years...in my opinion!! but Tadamon is passing through a difficult time.....in the mean time, they were the main club 2 fight the late FA 4 6 months!! after they won the fight...they had 2 prepare their team in a short period, and when they had just started adminstration conflict occured directly....and over all Roda Antar has left a big gap.....and with all the injuries!!! but all arnt much problems 4 Tadamon.... Tadamon will overcome all there problems...and will b ready 2 over take Nejmeh this Thursday and continue there journey...2 raise the championship cup at the end of the season!!!
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Lebguy
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posted January 08, 2002 11:22 PM
Hi future_boss i want to let u know thet besides tadamoun sour team there is nejmeh, they have a good players and they can make 2 teams with the reserve, so dont say "tadamoun will b ready to over take nejmeh this thursday", all the Administration and the players plus the fan of nejmeh are more than ready for this match..to remembering u when someone talk about lebanon quickly come to his mind Nejmeh and Ansar so these 2 teams are the 3amoud 2lfokari for the lebanese football
where was tadamoun , salam, ahley saida man ....
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mohamad alkhatib
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posted January 09, 2002 02:41 AM
hey my fellows plz calm down,first of all who ever has the chance to win i will be very happy for him cause it's for the sake of the lebanese football,as an example look at Salam Zgarta, they have been playing in a such performance for about three or foour years but of their bad luck we used to have the name less man in fedration,so plz let us be optimastic,and let us take the last game betwwen nejmeh and tadmoun how it was awesome,isn't it?i guess it was first time the it was notall of fouls and nervous setution,so good luck for all the teams.
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leb4all
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posted January 09, 2002 07:31 AM
I believe there are many factors combined that made Ansar the best team in lebanon for 11 consec. years.. One of which, but surely, not the most important, is the federation exclusive support..At the same time, We found during the last 2 years of the old federation, Ansar team got weaker, and hence the federation support was not enough for Ansar to make victories. Therefore, it's unfair to claim that 11 championships were the gift of Raheef Alameh to Salim Diab..
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future_boss
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posted January 09, 2002 03:08 PM
lek ya leguy...1st what im writing is my opinion..u say Nejmeh r ready 2morrow...we both will shut up and let the field talk!!!
second Nejmeh and Ansar were the 3amoud of lebanese soccer..but 2day this has changed..Tadamon with great strength and respect b rought themselves on2 the competion!!! I dnt care about the past...it is the past/history now we r in the present!!! let us c what we r doing now and waht we will do..not what we did!!! ok.....Ba3dena Tadamon is one of the main factors of lebanese football 2day/national team.....2day Tadamon is known very well in the Arab-world and soon we will b known in Asai.....and all we work 4 is 2 raise lebanon's flag so high above our heads...and we have already done that with kallon in Inter and Antar in Hamburg....when ever kallon is playing the commentator always mentions that Kallon came frm the Lebanon/Tadamon!!!! and Antar now in Hamburg represents us all....atleast germans 2day know there is a country"Lebanon"!!! and Thank u!!!
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libnani2002
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posted January 09, 2002 06:40 PM
Guys,
please stick to the original topic that I posted....enough trash talk and who will kick whom's ass...this bulletin board is not made for that, it is mainly so we can discuss issues that are interesting to all of us, with some objectivity...
As for the other guys (especially leb4all), thanks for your answers...although I don't agree with you totally, I am happy to know that there are some guys who know what they are talking about.
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future_boss
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posted January 09, 2002 06:52 PM
well this is yr opinion i respect it........though i think yr a laser u and ansar ...bass i still respect it
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libnani2002
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posted January 10, 2002 08:30 PM
Yeah right, I am loser! but I am very happy with my 11 championships, 8 cups, and all the other viceroy, super and "ittihad" cups!
If your team trains day and night for the next 100 years, you will never reach half this...Loser!
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future_boss
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posted January 10, 2002 09:05 PM
look ya libnani that was the past....and faceit....we beat u ebvery game 3-0 , 4-1
ma feeh moustawa!!! 3ieb...
anyways kalas.........intho u r the champs bass only with amo raheef!!! when he is around!!!
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libnani2002
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posted January 14, 2002 09:23 PM
Same disk playing, you don't have anything new??? I bet you see this man (ammak rahif) in your dreams!
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future_boss
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posted January 15, 2002 06:31 PM
libnani can i ask u 4 yr phone nember..if u live in lebanon.......anyways when u post yrs ill give u a call...because this issue is a ver...very long one that i wont finish i were 2 type it!!!SO PLAZ PLACE YR NUMBER HERE..AND I WILL B VERY HAPPY 2 TALK 2 U ABOUT THIS TOPIC...........
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libnani2002
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posted January 15, 2002 08:51 PM
Future Boss,
I would love to talk to you but I live in the US! Let's stick to "chatting" on this website, it's still better than nothing!I am just so sick of hearing about RAHIF...you guys made the man a legend and I don't think he is that important or that smart!
take care
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lebanese_guy
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posted January 16, 2002 11:54 AM
In fact, i was really happy to see a subject about Ansar, because i am an Ansar fan... i agree with you libnani2002, although future_boss was right about the wrong techniques that Ansar used and still using (the exclusively old or exculsively young players team), but i would like to say for you future_boss to present some more respect (as it decreased chronologically through subjects as you made them as if they are teeangers discussions)...
and about this Rahif's subjects, i think it was a great deal in the past (as Answar was collecting all the titles (almost deserving the majority not all of them)), but i dunno why you still insist on this matter now...
anyway i wish that lebanese football would be better and i strongly wish for lebanese fans to be more respectfull and more civilized (i include for lebanese fans all the clubs fans even Ansar's club...)
Well, good luck all Lebanon teams and all their supporters :)
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alilis
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posted January 19, 2002 12:39 AM
Hi guys,
let us forget about the past,Mr x is good ,Mr y is bad and why Ansar was the champion for many years.
Let us look for the future of our football now, and I think we have some clubs doing fine in the league .
Good luck for all clubs
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future_boss
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posted January 19, 2002 10:45 AM
libnani, as i told u b4 ansar deserved all the championships they won!!! but i dnt denay the fact Rahif helped them in some ways....this doesnt mean ansar asked him 2!!!! cuz trust me they didnt need all his help!!! and he is avery sick person...he simply enjoys playing around!!!
but the only reason i came up with this is because u brought up the subject of last year critisizing Tadamon(the club i love) just the same wat u love Ansar!!! the only point i wanted u 2 understand is....dnt judge others b4 u look at yrself and the same goes 2 me!!!! so i hope u got what i meant...anyways no haard feeling...wwe aall r one...at the end we all r 4 il montakab!!!! good luck.....
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lebanese_guy
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posted February 07, 2002 01:36 PM
Hi all
Sorry about Ansar, but really they are in problem.
I hope Ansar club's administration does something as we are in the red zone...
I am really sad to see the club, that i always supported and still support, in this situation.
I heard about supporters in the stadium that started to insult referee and the coach and the federation, i didn't see the match but i think it is a bad way to put the reason on others... I hope we are learning something and that we can fix this situation. Our coach still 1 of the best coaches in Lebanon (i don't know if his techniques are still old, but i don't forget what he gave to Ansar all those past years.
Even if we loose, we are still Ansar's fan and we must not forget that these days Ansar needs our support not our insults.
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leb4all
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posted February 07, 2002 02:23 PM
what I noticed lately is that Ansar only play good against Nejmeh!
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mohamad alkhatib
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posted February 07, 2002 03:34 PM
I guess they ony play against the big teams such Radmoun and Hekmeh and Nejmeh.
Actually its Ansar's administration fault ,they were able to bring better forgein player and even locally,but wht we can say?Winak Ya Rahif?
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Trabelsi
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posted February 08, 2002 09:19 AM
I'm glad Ansar are not doing well, most of their fans are a bunch of glory hunters, they're nowhere to be seen now that their team is not doing well(they're maybe busy supporting Hekmeh at the moment).
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libnani2002
Junior Member
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posted February 08, 2002 07:20 PM
Well Ya Trabelsi,
I guess it is not you who will teach us lessons in loyalty...The true Ansar fans are still there, supporting their team regardless of anything...
As for your "shamateh" bil ansar, I understand how you feel, after all we used to beat you 5-1 all the time!!!
So for now, just focus on your team not dropping to 3rd division!!and leave Ansar for the ansarieh...
As for supporting Hikmeh, if you knew a little about lebanese sports, you would know that most ansar fans are riyadi fans, so that's just so stupid to say!
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lebanese_guy
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posted February 08, 2002 07:36 PM
Mr. Trabelsi
when reading the other topic you put for the team you support it made a good view on you... but it is very shame to talk like that on another fan's team... it has really belowed yourself in some people minds...
As told to you, take care of your team and don't bother yourself on others...
When talking about Ansar, we are talking about champions, we don't deny that we are in a a very week period but this happen to all, not only for football teams but also for great kingdoms and religions...
I always wish that all lebanese fans possess some more respect, because football evoluate with who watch it too...
and thanks for your support Mohamad Khatib, i thought Rahif's subject we already left it... i dunno what is its relation with Ansar's situation now... it is a problem of some players and administration (as example you can see David Nakid not showing the wonderfull technics he used before), i dunno when Rahif played in our formation
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leb4all
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posted February 09, 2002 01:14 AM
Hehehe.. It seems the Ansarieh are taking over this Bulletin Board! wish they could do the same in the Football fields!!!
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mohamad alkhatib
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posted February 09, 2002 07:58 AM
As u said Lebanese guy,it's not a subject of Rahif,but i have one advice for Ansar's administation and espically for Mr.Salim Diab,Do wht Nejmeh had done about seven years ago,change everything and espcially those who still have loyalty for Rahif more then for Ansar Sake.
Start from the begining,and may be changing Haj Adanan Alsharki (who i really admire and respect) and trainee coaches is needed but may next year.
Good luck Ansar.
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